- - unless the facilities clearly warrant such a selection
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- A permanent site might make the Nationals on the east coast
all the time and make a hardship for westerns. I think the Nat'l club should help with
more of the cost of putting on the nationals.
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- 1) I think it is very important to rotate the specialty
around the country. 2) There is always a problem when hard and fast rules are implemented.
Therefore, to the extent that it is possible to rely on common sense, I think the regions
hosting the specialty should be allowed to vary the "rules" to the extent
necessary to insure that they are able to pull off the event. These are increasingly
massive events, and I know that within each region some clubs will/may have their own
petty grievances with other clubs. I think that when the regions are broken up into
collective areas, it will be necessary to insure that the clubs within each region are
compatible and will be able to work together to insure a well run specialty.
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- A national specialty committee could exist but the site
could rotate between regions.
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- A permanent site has it's benefits (stability and
consistency), but I feel that by rotating the site, it would allow more flexibility in the
planning and would allow people who would never be able to travel across country an
opportunity to attend the Specialty when it came to their region. It would also help to
keep the Nationals on a national level, rather than becoming a glorified Regional
Specialty.
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- A permanent site may not be possible, we have lost many a
site after a specialty including the Marriott here in Kansas City and the YMCA in
Colorado.
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- A plan such as I have selected will require that regional
clubs work together. It appeared that Heartland and SE Wisconsin did very well at
combining their efforts this year. I hope that all the work behind the scenes went as well
as the final result that I saw at Lake Lawn. If there are clubs whose members are not as
easy going as our dogs and who can not exhibit the teamwork we strive for in the obedience
and draft rings, then problems are bound to occur. If that happens, I would hope that
there would be a facilitator at the National level who could remind them to emulate their
dog's attitudes and work ethic. That National "specialty advisor" or
"specialty counselor" could help groups by providing a workbook of sorts of what
needs to be done with a time-table. If each group made notes of things that worked or
didn't work for them and why, there would be no need for folks to re-invent the wheel in
planning each specialty. I wouldn't want to see such a thing used as a crutch or automatic
model each year because I like the regional flavor that each group brings to our
specialties; but some guidance would be very helpful for folks who have never planned an
event of this magnitude. Cost is also a factor high in the minds of clubs. Many can not
afford to support a National Specialty. That is why I like the idea of geographic regions
whose clubs work together. Computers and e-mail can make this a much easier task than it
used to be. Thank you for this forum for our input.
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- Again...BID IT OUT...there are cities who would find a
place for us with the amount of money our people spend. We would probably be good for
about $250,000 to any local economy
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- Although I like the idea of a permanent specialty committee
in each region, I think the clubs would do better to choose their own method of
determining their specialty committee in order to ensure cooperation of clubs.
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- Always an added benefit of going to the specialty is seeing
different parts of the U.S. I enjoy going to different places each year. There are some
sites I would not mind returning to, but for the most part, I would like different sites
each y
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- ANY person who jeopardizes the use of a specialty site by
trashing a hotel room should have their name well publicized in as many different venues
as possible, and be banned forever from participating in another Specialty. This behavior
is the most callous disregard for the club, other dog owners, and reflects poorly on the
breed and the club. It will also tend to make it impossible to have any sort of permanent
site selection more than any other single cause.
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- As I mentioned - two or three sites as permanent locations
with rotating club sponsorship.
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- At last count, there are over 150 breeds recognized by AKC,
many of which have regional/national clubs who host regional/national specialties. If we
haven't done so already, I believe it would be prudent to send this questionnaire (or one
similar) to find out about their practices. Afterall, why reinvent the wheel? Best regards
and good luck! Phil and Susan Henderson Yorba Linda,
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- BMDCA should consider contracting professional assistance
just to find sights large enough with easy access for our specialty show. For example I
live in NYS. I have no idea of a location large enough & will to hold a BMD specialty
show.
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- BMDCA should provide a Specialty Advisor/Coordinator as a
resource for those members organizing and running the National Specialty.
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- Club partnerships will likely be the best way to get more
of the smaller regional clubs involved in running a specialty they would not dream of
tackling on their own, but we should not exclude the larger clubs from hosting on their
own if they so desire. More and more we are also seeing individuals from different regions
volunteering for specific tasks. This should also be welcomed and encouraged. Many
specialty tasks can be planned long distance, such as trophies, auctions, raffles,
speakers, etc
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- Considering the BMDCA parent organization on the whole does
very little for regional clubs, it seems a bit presumptuous to sound inferential that
regional clubs will be "selected" (Implying indirectly...forced?) without their
consent in a rotation plan to host, or help host a National Specialty.
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- Different sites add to the fun of a specialty. If you find
a site that is perfect for a specialty then don't restrict the use to one time. That will
only make the following years more difficult. Planning for a large event like this from
far away could be very difficult so I think the host club should be able to have it close
to their home for the purpose of better planning. If not, all must expect and accept
details to fall thru the cracks.
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- Do to family and work obligations as well as travel
limitations (problems with flying dogs) it may not be possible to travel widely to
Specialties. Rotating them throughout the country would give more people the opportunity
to attend a Specialty when it is in their area of the country. Although "core"
membership may not change much from year to year, general membership comes and goes and
assigning a Specialty Committee may stress "core" membership more than
necessary. Putting on a Specialty is almost a full time job and you may be hard pressed to
find members willing to take on that responsibility. On the other hand, as a member of a
local all breed club and it's show committee, I understand better than many the ins and
outs of putting on a show. Our local club tends to use the same people for the committee
heads every year as they are familiar with the needs and requirements of the show and are
thereby better able to fulfill the positions completely and efficiently. I don't feel you
can assign a responsibility as large as a Specialty to a club and hope they come through
with a successfull show. Clubs need to be interested and willing to place all of this work
into a show. Is there a Specialty Show "Guide" that outlines for each Specialty
giving club the proceedures for giving a Specialty, include necessary time lines? Most
people do not understand how far in advance things need to be done to fulfill AKC
requirements and to be able to get things to the Superintendent so they are mailed in a
timely manner. Does each successive club add comments and suggestions for the next club. I
worked on setting up and printing the 2000 Specialty Planning Booklet. As I am in the
printing business I was well versed in getting the printing set up and done. However, less
experience people could possibly use a sound guideline, complete with previous clubs
trials, successes and failures. Having an on-line spot where each successive club could go
to down-load the information may make getting this information easy. And each Specialty
giving club could go to the site after their show and post comments, concerns, etc in the
form of a post show report, perhaps in a questionaire format. I hope I haven't been too
verbose. Thank you for permitting me the forum to express my opinion. Marian Fenlon
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- Encourage the show committee to use a new site. (Rotation
within the region, if possible)
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- Everyone should have the opportunity to go to a national
specialty. Having them held in various cities across the country makes this more possible
then having them at the same location each year.
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- Finding a show site will always be the most difficult task
no matter what region it is in. At some time in the future we will probably have to accept
a site that will not fit all of our needs and be spread out in different locations. As the
number of entries continues to increase so will the difficulty of finding a large enough
location for us all.
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- Finding a site within a specific region that suitably
accommodates the number of people and dogs is becoming much more difficult to acquire. The
National Specialty has become more a family vacation and therefore it is thought that
accommodations must be made for varying forms of entertainment and sightseeing. While this
is very nice, isn't the real purpose of the Specialty to meet with other Berner folks,
look at dogs and talk dogs?
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- Going to different sites and areas is part of the fun of
going to a specialty, especially for families where the specialty is a vacation...also,
some part of the nation are more convenient than others, for everyone...I liked the
rotation across the country.
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- Good sites are literally few and far between. Many
hotels/resorts don't want to host a weeklong convention of 300+ large furry dogs and their
people. This is one reason why the Specialty should be hosted by a region, with different
clubs cooperating in putting it on: there may not be a suitable site in each Club's local
area.
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- Have several regional specialties each year; smaller,
simpler more manageable shows with fewer activities at each. Concentrate on activities
that the dog was bred for, not what the owners were bred for--like spending money and
shopping. Each year the current single specialty tries to outdo the previous one.
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- Have the Specialty end on Saturday not Sunday.
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- Have you contacted other National Clubs and asked how they
do their specialties? I am sure they would help and tell us what works for them and what
doesn't. But I do think the specialty should be in all parts of the country so that
everyone gets a chance to see the best we have to offer.
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- HAVING A PERMANENT SITE IS BORING!! WE HAVE APPRECIATED ALL
THE SPECIALTIES WE HAVE ATTENDED IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS - COLORADO SPRINGS, ATLANTA, &
ESTES PARK. ISN'T THAT PART OF WHAT MAKES A SPECIALTY SPECIAL?!
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- Having the Specialty held in various areas of the US allows
more opportunities for individuals to attend. Sometimes the distances are too far and
expenses to get there too high.
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- host to select site. I dissagree that they cannot be used
twice. If they worked well once, they should be able to use the site again
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- Hosting a national specialty is a LOT of work. (I know, I
helped with two of them.). The BMDCA should not dictate procedures to the regional clubs
and should not force any club to do it. If a club does not have the manpower and/or the
interest, enthusiasm, and willingness to take this task on, and hosting a specialty is not
supported by the majority of the members of that club, it could conceivably destroy, or at
least severely weaken, that club. The health of the regional clubs is more important than
having a specialty each year!
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- I also think a permanent site per region is an option. I do
not like options 1 or 4 - only one permanent site, or saying that sites cannot be re-used.
I can see some practical reasons for re-using sites (although this might diminish the
"vacation aspect"). So, I feel the above option is the most flexible.
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- I am exceedingly grateful to all the folks who have worked
to put on the Nationals I have attended.
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- I believe if a site is good, then it should be
re-used.
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- I believe regional is the best option. I work with a group
now that rotates their meetings east, middle and western regions. It works well and gives
everyone a meeting close to home. I think especially since we are talking about people
possibly always having to fly a dog to enter events you would alienate part of the club if
you chose 1 permanent location. Some would never get to show their veterans for sure.
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- I believe that the excitement of a national show is the
different sites. The show should be rotated geographically with a host club combining with
other area clubs. The site itself should be chosen by the host club. If the site was used
before and it was an excellent site, use it again, if not, find a new one.
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- I did not attend this years specialty. The location
was hard to get to and the shortage of rooms a factor.
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- I don't mind reusing sites within regions but I would like
to see rotating regions so everyone can feasibly get to one national or another. I also
think it is important to rotate the regions so we get to see the variations and
representations of what's taking place in our breed.
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- I don't show my Berner at this point, but am very likely to
so sometime in the future with a Berner that I own. Having a specialty close to where I
live would help in my eventually showing a Berner of mine.
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- I favor a standing National Specialty Committee, under the
direction of the Specialty Coordinator(s, that includes the Show Chairs and Assistant
Chairs of the previous three years specialties, as well as knowledgeable and resourceful
individuals chosen by the Coordinator(s)These individuals Would be available via the
website or directly and would serve as a major resource for each new Show Committee. If a
National Specialty committee would actually take over Specialty management, the pool of
talent and knowledge would rapidly shrink; Responsibility builds pride in accomplishment.
I believe Specialties should be assigned on a regional basis according to membership
numbers. If more than one club is present in a region a consortium of the clubs should
plan the Specialty, but ONE CLUB should have the primary administrative responsibility and
authority.
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- I feel flexibility will help. Such as allowing consortiums
and individual clubs, site usage as can be attained with multiple usage, providing we
don't loose any more nice sites. I find it hard to go to Specialties in the east but am
glad to have them in closer, from the center of the country to the west. So I feel we
should have the same opportunity to go to as many specialties as we can as those in the
east. Though a permanent site would give stability, it wouldn't provide variety and
interest (for more than the first couple of years) and though it would be advantageous to
some, it would be disadvantageous to others all the time. A permanent committee would be
harder to maintain-even with rotations so no one gets burned out, it would be easiest for
those close and would limit the wider range of volunteers available. These are my opinions
and thoughts and why I answered the way I did.
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- I feel our national specialty should not be held indoors in
the middle of a city, in a high rise surrounded by cement. Our dogs are too large and the
numbers too great for this type of facility. Rhode Island was great and so was
Wisconsin.
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- I feel very strongly that the specialty be held in
different regions every year. I realize how difficult it is to host a specialty but if it
rotates and every one know the rotation preparations and plans can be made well ahead of
time.
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- I have been to the last five specialties and I am part of
the committee working on 2001. Each Specialty has been great in its own way, but I can see
how a new group struggles to do something that group has never done before. Many large
national organizations have permanent committees that plan the regular meetings and
events. I think a permanent committee would be a great way to take the learning curve out
of the picture, but then rotate the site to let everyone have equal access. If there is an
area of the country without sufficient volunteer support to help the permanent committee,
then that area can be skipped until membership support in the region has increased.
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- I have heard of situations in the past where we have had
great sites and because of policy violations regarding dogs in members' rooms, we have
been unable to return to these sites. I hope this issue has been strongly addressed and
will not impact future sites.
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- I have only been to 2 national specialties (1999 &
2000), but I think the organizing clubs did an excellent job selecting a site and
organizing the activities. I would hate to see policy changes made which would take away
each host group's initiative and creativity. That's one of the things that make the
national specialty special.
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- I just don't think this one can be answered. As beautiful
as it is in Western WA, we don't have one really good site to use,,,,,,we may some day but
for now, nothing, hence we head to the East side of the state. I also don't think we can
set one site as the option may only be available one time. Thinking out loud again, maybe
someone (the next club or region to do a specialty) needs to really simplify what the
specialty is. I think Arizona did that and I heard it was a wonderful time. That's a
pretty board statement but I think you know what I mean.
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- I know that national specialties are a huge amount of work
for any regional club. However, I think they need to be rotated around the country to make
it easier to everyone to show, and especially to attend!
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- I like the idea of a permanent Specialty committee in each
region. It is hard to re-invent the wheel each time a region's turn is up. It would be
nice to have a base to start from. I think it would make a lot less work all the way
around and a less daunting task for newcomers.
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- I like the rotation of the Specialties. Different people
get to attend thus different dogs. Also, different vendors get to attend.
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- I realize this has been an increasing concern, especially
since the increase of BMD's, however, I would hope that clubs continue to volunteer, and
make it their decision. It won't be as successful if clubs are demanded to hold
specialties.
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- I really enjoy traveling to different parts of the country
to attend specialties. My husband and I use it as vacation time. I would hate to see it
become "just another show". Each section of the country has so much to offer,
but I also know that some specialties will be just too far to travel.
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- I strongly feel that there should be a standing committee
that oversees the Specialty Chair(s), I realize this is in place..but support is
lacking....and that information should be in print on how a National is run...from the
minor groundskeeping to the more complex issue of fund raising. I think many smaller clubs
are concerned with the great amount of money being used and fear the fundraising. Also if
there is not BMDCA support, with funds and backup of decisions, why on earth would any
club want to host? The National speaks of bank accounts and CD's, yet gives no incentives
to the smaller clubs for hosting such a large scale event....there had better be a plan to
support small clubs if that plan succeeds (forcing each club to take a National...or we
will be fleeing like rats off a sinking ship. Thanks for reading!!
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- I think asking for input is a SUPER idea.
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- I think it is getting to the point where it is difficult
for clubs to find hotel sites which will accommodate a Specialty show (however desirable
it is) and need to start considering sites such as fairgrounds and convention centers
which have held AKC shows with perhaps more than hotel which are in proximity to
each
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- I think it needs to be by Region on a rotation basis but
after that, you have to hope that the clubs within that Region will volunteer to do the
specialty or that several clubs will get together to sponsor it cooperatively. I think the
sponsoring club(s) have to want to do the specialty or the quality of our specialty will
go to pot. There has to be enthusiasm on the club's part and not feel likes it's being
shoved down their throat. But, of course, if it's done on a rotating basis, the region
will know years ahead that it is their turn and will perhaps put some thought into it. I
was involved with gardening organizations for many years and our annual specialty was by
region - it worked very well. It was a lot of work for the sponsoring region as they had
to prepare tour gardens which took several years in advance. I think another option which
might soften this idea is leaving the option available for a region to pass if they didn't
feel they could put on a quality specialty. Just my thoughts. Good l
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- I think its best if one yr the national is held in the west
coast area/region and the next the east coast area/region.
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- I think one of the biggest problem with hosting the
Speciality is the site availability in areas. Most large hotels with grass areas will not
permit dogs. I have seen other National Clubs hold their shows in parking lots at the host
hotels. I truly hope that Berners will never need to do that. They need to be on grass.
Land is getting sparse and hotels are letting the doggie world intrude on the lawns they
work so hard to keep nice. The Specialties have become too large. We are fortunate that
our wonderful breed does so many activities but it is also a curse. This means the club
needs more people to take on the responsibility of these activities and committees. Most
of the time the reason for forming different clubs in the same basic region is because of
personality clashes. If clubs can not stay formed because of personalities how would 2 or
3 clubs be able to work together for a Specialty. Most clubs (not just dog clubs) have a
core of people (usually 5 - 10 depending on # of membership
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- I think that by moving the specialty around the country we
are giving everyone a better chance to attend at least a few specialties every few years.
Myself, I have not been able to make the east coast specialties , but was able to go to
the ca, az and colo. specialties, and will be able to go next year to Spokane. By moving
the specialty around we have a better variety of entries from different parts of the
country. It is also exciting to travel to a different place each time, even if I cant
always get there.
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- I think we should try to encourage more regional
specialties. as clubs gain confidence and member experience at regional specialties they
maybe more likely to take on the nationals. Better direction from the BMDCA specialty
coordinators would be greatly appreciated. Going through this as a consortium has been
mind boggling. It is like guess the right answer until you are wrong game. I would also
like to see the specialty guideline book fine tuned and made user friendly. Have more than
just one person on the BMDCA specialty coordinator position. Have a committee of committee
heads for each required or consistent part of the specialty. Then recruit help from the
local group. Hire some one to do research on site locations around the country. Make a
master list for all to be able to access. Then clubs won't be so overwhelmed by the size
of the task.
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- I was a swim coach for many years in Alaska and I answered
this questionnaire in the same way that our championship swim meets were hosted around the
state. We were divided into regional areas and were governed by a State board of directors
with annual meetings much like we are with the BMDCA. This system worked very well in the
state and helped each region and also maintained the best quality meet for Alaska's
athletes.
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- I worked with a national non-profit who had a professional
convention team in the national office who worked with volunteers onsite. For the most
part it worked well as long as the volunteers understood the division of duties. The local
clubs volunteered and brought the event to their region as a service to members in that
area. The advantage was that the event maintained a level of professionalism that we
wanted to present. I think that would be a concern for BMDCA as well. The Club could
consider hiring a part-time convention coordinator. It's a lot of work for no pay, but
there are some nice free benefits in the industry that might be tempting.
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- I would choose a permanent site be selected, however, that
would not make it easy for people to go who live on the opposite side of the country. I
feel that if the specialty was held in a permanent part of the country, we would lose
attendance. The same people would attend year after year, the same vendors would be there
year after year. It is fun to go to the specialty in different parts of the country
because new people attend and new vendors are always there.
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- I would not prefer a mandatory site (especially since you
can't anyways!). The biggest reason is that who would make the decision on the final site
and there is always a division of the country that would feel left out (ie: if always in
west, then easterners feel left out and vice versa)
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- Ideally the regional committee would assist in locating and
working with the sites available. Contacting other breed clubs for recommendations is a
must. Having been active with the 1998 National Specialty I know how important it is to
have an excellent repoir with the host site. The hotel used was knowledgeable about dog
shows and handled our event with expertise and professionalism that is rarely found.
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- If a site works and the majority of the membership is
satisfied with it, by all means, if they will have us back, we should go back. Each time a
facility hosts an event like this, they learn from it and can do a better job the next
time!
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- If everything was set up ahead of time, Clubs would have a
year or two til they knew they'd be hosting the Specialty, and could really make some nice
plans. Rotating the Specialty from one side of the Country to the other, affords different
people the opportunity to attend the Specialty. I can't even begin to imagine the amount
of hard work that goes in to organizing and pulling off a Specialty...my hat's off to all
who contribute. Hopefully when it comes out this way in two years, I can do my share.
Thank You.
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- If the decision is made to select a permanent site, I would
hope that it would be centrally located - the Purina site in St. Louis would seem the
obvious choice. While I don't think that is the best solution, if it comes down to it,
that is supposed to be a great site, and obviously shouldn't be a problem re. permanence.
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- If there has been a wonderful location which in my opinion
means climate, site, etc. I think it would be nice to have it there again. I definitely do
not think they should be held in a hot climate. Our dogs are from Switzerland originally
and it is just more fun and also more relaxing to be where it is cool; not hot. I would
never want one held in my area just to keep me from driving so far; let's think of our
dogs.
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- I'm a new BMD owner, and have not yet joined a regional
club, as I am still checking out my options. I think that each region should have a
permanent specialty committee and that in each region, that committee should agree to
their own method and report this to BMDCA.
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- I'm not the one out there soliciting for a host for the
upcoming Specialties, but do we have to do this by assignment? What happens if a club says
"we just can't" and begs off for 2 years? Could they be allowed to find their
own replacement? How about putting together a list of required events that they must host?
Please leave us some leeway to make our own alliances and decisions within this: Location,
Duties, Participants, Duration, Supporting Activities, etc.
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- IMO, we cannot lock ourselves into one site - given the
fact that several sites I have looked at recently have had bad experiences with dog shows.
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- Interesting ideas. Your survey is a bit biased. "Have
a club volunteer and HOPE (emphasis mine) the specialty happens"? You cannot force
clubs to host the Specialty. Some clubs are small and others are spread out over large
geographic areas. If you select a permanent location, will BMDCA be the club to put on the
show and leave the regional clubs out of it? Or will the regional club in that area put on
the specialty year after year? What about when some of the smaller regional clubs get big
enough and organized enough to put on a Specialty? Will they just lose out? The NCA has a
rotating specialty. Regional clubs volunteer several years in advance. It allows the
Specialty to showcase dogs from that region, which perhaps wouldn't make it across country
if the show were in a different location. There hasn't been a problem with clubs not
offering to host the specialty. The problem seems to be finding suitable show sites. The
slapping of the wrist of a BMDCA member that caused BMDCA to lose a wonderful show site a
few years ago doesn't help the show site situation at all. BMDCA should also be looking at
examples from other breeds with similar registration numbers and a similar number of
regional clubs and members. The majority of BMDCA members and regional club members have
attended one or no specialties and if they went to one show, probably went to the one in
their area. Rotating specialties offer people from different regions of the country to see
a large number of dogs, it allows dogs from that region to be showcased and it offers
showgoers a different experience every year.
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- It is to the breed's advantage to move the specialty
around. To assume that only one area is competent to host an event such is this is a poor
reflection of the remainder of the club as a whole. A hosting package that would guide the
new committee vs having them re-invent the wheel each year would be most helpful.
Participation by both new and "old" would allow for growth in the club and
prevent the will of a few to overshadow the whole, an "old boys club" so to
speak.
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- It works for other breed clubs.
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- Its easy to say that's how we do it, BUT in years past, it
was assumed that specialties would rotate across the country. I still think that should
happen - each BMDCA club member deserves the right to be able to attend a specialty in
their area. Not everyone has the means or time available to travel across the country to
attend the national. It should be a available to all club members - and not just the
privileged. The national should be a forum for education and by not making this available
to ALL members we have taken away the
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